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Red Dead Redemption II – did you think itd score higher?

The morning Inbox compares Zelda: Breath Of The Wild with Red Dead Redemption II, as one reader wishes for more N64-esque retro games.

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Hype adjustment

Very nice review of Red Dead Redemption II, GC. I appreciate the detail you went into and the fact it had no spoilers. I assume I wasnt the only one hoping for 10/10 but I had a feeling it wouldnt get that from you. I was a bit surprised to find that most of the bigger sites also didnt give it full marks, even though the reasons seemed to differ quite a bit.

The role-playing parts seem to be a big bone of contention, with a lot of American sites in particular seemingly put off by it. I have to say I really didnt like it in GTA IV but Im prepared to believe it works here if the whole point is that its more of a survival game.

The combat is more of a worry for me but I guess it was always going to be pretty much the same as GTA V. Its the lack of variety in vehicles and weapons that seems the bigger issue although I think this is why the story aspect is ramped up to compensate. Im definitely still going to buy the game but I have to admit my hype meter has been turned down a notch on what to expect.

GC: We didnt mind the role-playing elements at all, we thought that aspect was judged just right.

Less than perfect

I wont lie, I expected Red Dead Redemption II to get straight 10s more or less across the board, so was a bit surprised to see it come in lower than that with most of the reliable sites. Ive still pre-ordered it and am really looking forwards to tomorrow but Im hoping that none of the issues turn out to be too much of a problem.

It really is crazy how even a review as positive as you guys put out can still seem like a disappointment. But then I remember you saying to the Super Mario Odyssey guy that unless his game was the best game ever itd be seen as a let-down. Which is try really and probably true in Rockstars case as well.

Im getting the game on Xbox One X though and it sounds like the graphics definitely dont disappoint. Given how late we are in the generation this could end up being the best-looking game ever, especially considering its open world. Im excited but Im also a bit more wary than I was, but perhaps thats for the best. Always better if something is better than you expected than the other way round.

No breath of a lie

Great review of Red Dead Redemption II, I think I was probably expecting 9/10 and the criticisms sound like about what youd expect from Rockstar. I found the comparisons to Zelda: Breath Of The Wild particular interesting as a lot of the footage Ive seen is kind of reminiscent of that game, but much more realistic.

Like you say though its the interactivity that counts and Breath Of The Wild was able to give you a reward for exploration or doing just about anything, which Red Dead cant really do because its realistic. Id love to see Rockstar do a fantasy game at some point, or even sci-fi, but I think they think it wouldnt be accepted by their fans.

I dont know why though, something like a more action-packed The Witcher sounds like something that would be totally reasonable for them to do. I guess its probably just onto GTA VI next though. I know what Dan Houser said but I just cant see him not wanting to do another one and since hes a writer hes not going to be satisfied with just GTA Online 2.



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Never tell me the odds

I cant believe that Super Smash Bros. Ultimate leak actually looks like it might be true, it just seems too good to be true! I love the idea that theyve actually out-obscured even fan favourite Geno with Mach Rider, never wouldve expected that one! I think there must still be more to come to, presumably as DLC, because theres still no ARMS rep and surely Nintendo wouldnt want to leave that out?

But what do you think are the odds the leak is real, GC? To me it seems about 2:1 in favour? Cant wait to find out because either way that Nintendo Direct is going to be epic.

GC: Wed say those odds sound about right.

64-bit retro

That Banjo-Kazooie N64 mode did make me laugh, even if it doesnt really look that much like a N64 game. I notice that indie developers never really try to recreate that era of gaming. For obvious reasons perhaps but weve got so many 8-bit and 16-bit platformers Id like to see at least something that looks and feels like a N64 or PS1 game.

I guess A Hat In Time might be the closest we get but its not really what I had in mind. I want something even more retro!

GC: There are few indie games like that, but none that have really risen to prominence. First person shooter Strafe perhaps, but thats more early era PC graphics card than anything else. Although it might remind you of Quake on the N64 and the 90s style ad is great.

Why not both?

I think that they should definitely make a GTA VI. Thats what we need to continue the games legacy, each time they have released a new GTA they have improved every time so I can imagine how good GTA VI would be.

I know me and all my friends would prefer a GTA VI rather than a new GTA Online 2, or do both and keep everyone happy. GTA is the best game ever released in my opinion.

Good to see that Capcom have patched the Street Fighter Collection and have plans to patch the Beat Em Up bundle. I wrote in a while back to express my concerns at issues and it looks like Capcom have listened to fan concerns. Online looks to be more stable, something that was urgently needed on the Switch and stereo playback improved for Street Fighter III titles.

The Beat Em Up bundle has some additional filter options coming in November and hopefully better online. They are adding an option to stop online players joining a game midway through as well. At present it could lead to a playthrough being ruined by severe lag, forcing a rage quit.

On the subject of Capcom I applaud their attempts to make Mega Man more accessible. Mega Man 11 is the first game I have managed to complete (admittedly not on the normal difficulty) and its a great way to bring in new players to the series. I love the new art style and the additional challenges are a good time sink.

I would also like to sing the praises of The Messenger, an outstanding and very well-crafted game with one of the best soundtracks Ive heard in a long time.

So while the gaming world goes mad for Red Dead Redemption II I will be getting back throwing fireballs and cursing as I fall into yet another spike pit.

Plans wrecked

I really enjoyed Destruction Derby many moons ago, and the first FlatOut more recently, so Ive had Wreckfest on my radar for a while, as it was pencilled in for a November release for PlayStation 4 and Xbox.

Its had some really good write-ups on the PC so was disappointing (yet understandable given the Developers rationale) to read this week that the console releases have been postponed until 2019. After a cursory search I cant find anything, did you review the PC release?
TheTruthSoul (PSN ID)

GC: We didnt, no. We were waiting for the console version, which is a bit of a bummer.



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Horses for courses

Im not somebody that has a preferred genre of game, I like to think I basically just enjoy good games, so any game that is universally accepted as good within its genre. My favourite games probably being Fallout 3, Worms, Resident Evil 2, and Mario Kart. So all very different.

I have recently bought Splatoon 2 after reading good things and having now played the first one. I dont know what it is but I just dont really like it. The shooting is good, the idea is good, a good variety of modes, but I just have no desire to play it. Not sure if it is the characters or what. I feel strange as everybody else says nothing but good things, I wonder if I am missing something! I just dont have any desire to play it at all, its not an online thing either because I played Rocket League non-stop. Wondered if anybody else felt the same way? Admittedly I dont play a lot of shooters but Ive had a lot of fun playing Call Of Duty and dont really see it in the same way as other shooters.

Not sure if this is a Hot Topic which has been done before or not but it could work as one.
Will N

GC: Sounds like its just not your thing, it happens. Weve never liked Worms, for example, despite it being well regarded generally.

This weeks Hot Topic

The subject for this weekends Inbox was suggested by reader stanley71 and asks what was your favourite video games magazine?

With the news that GamesTM and GameMaster are to close next month the era of the games mag is almost over, but what are your fondest memories and which were your favourite titles? How often did you use to read games mags and how important were they to you in terms of entertainment and games advice?

Do you still read games mags now and do you think theres any way they can survive? What do they do better than the Internet and what will you miss most when theyre gone?

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